INTERVIEWER 1: Gives you the signal.
SUBJECT: Well necessity is the mother of invention, and my philosophy of just do it was certainly born of necessity. As I progressed through the managerial ranks, I found my calendar became fuller and fuller, more into evening with meetings, from teammates as my team grew, from folks I was surveying, from outside constituents. And I had a choice of spending my whole day in meetings, and then my evening preparing for the next day's meetings, and executing on that current day's meetings, or to come up with a different approach. And so I decided to try turning meetings themselves into the workspace.
And I would just look at who I was going to meet with the next day, and when they came in, we'd talk about what they want to accomplish. And if it was needing more information to make a decision, we would Google it up in real time. If we needed to confirm something so that we could go on to the next step, we would make that phone call, and confirm with the outside party what we needed to do in order for us to do. If there was a presentation made, I wouldn't just provide feedback, we'd actually edit it in real time, and same for manuscripts. If we had a document we needed to edit, I'd pull it up, and we'd just do it in real time. And we'd both walk away with something actually accomplished, which had three benefits.
One, I had a better work life balance. Two, actually, the person I met with had a better work life balance, because they didn't take homework back to their desk. And three, it was an excellent way, and continues to be an excellent way, to role model problem solving. If you talk to someone about how to solve a problem and then send them off to do it, sometimes things can get lost in translation, and there's puzzlement, and things take longer.
If you actually solve the problem in real time with somebody, the next time that problem comes up, chances are they won't need the meeting. They'll actually know how to solve the problem. And of course, working with someone in partnership, you always learn, so I was learning a lot too. And we had better solutions to problems by treating meetings, in fact, as workspace, not as planning space for the work that would take place after the meeting.
Well necessity is the mother of invention, and my just do it philosophy was absolutely born of necessity. I found as I progressed through the manager ranks, and had more people on my team, more constituents who relied on me and or whom I served, that my calendar was just getting fuller and fuller of meeting after meeting, without even a pause for a breath. And I had a choice of either having a lifestyle whereby I spent my evenings preparing for the next day's meetings, and executing on things that had come out of the current day's meetings, or I could turn the meetings themselves into workspace. And so I tried that, and it worked pretty well.
What I would do is simply have looked at who is coming to meet with me, and what problem they wanted to solve, and then we'd use that time to in fact think through the decision, or make the phone call to confirm something, or edit an article together. We just used that as problem solving time.
And what I found was that there was actually three benefits. One is it made for a much better work life balance for me, and allowed me to be more expansive as a manager. Secondly, it helped the work life balance of the folks meeting with me, because we got things done in real time, and they didn't take homework back to their desk either. And then thirdly, it turned out to be an excellent way to role model problem solving, because if we had just discussed what was going to be done, and off I had gone, and off the person I had met with went to their desks, they might have puzzled over the how. And in fact by doing it together, and actually making the how happen if you will, in that time, we both came away with a sense of how you do it. And it actually in many cases meant we didn't even need the next meeting, because when that problem came up, everyone knew how to solve it.
So necessity is the mother of invention, and my just do it philosophy was definitely born of necessity. As I progressed along the manager ranks, I found my calendar getting fuller and fuller of meetings, back to back, such that my options for work life balance were to spend my evenings preparing for meetings, attend meetings, make decisions in meetings, have to do's that came out of meetings, then spend my evening getting those to do's done, and then preparing for the next day's meetings. And it was just a relentless treadmill.
And I just hit the stop button and said, I'm going to use the meetings themselves to get the work done. And I'm going to be as productive as I can within those meetings, and let's see how it goes. And so what I found was that as folks would come in to meet with me be it subordinates, or customers, internal, external, when we could look at those meetings and say, what do we want to accomplish, and then literally just do it in the meeting.
So if we needed to make a decision, but we needed some information, we would Google the information. If we had a document we needed to edit, we would edit it there in real time. If we needed to call somebody, or confirm something, we'd just make the call. We'd look through that person's to do list, or the problem they were trying to solve, and literally just do it in real time to the best of our ability.
Some things spilled over a bit, but by and large, it served two purposes. It certainly made my life more manageable, it frankly made folks who are meeting with me, their lives more manageable, because things got done in that period of time. They didn't take homework back to their desk. And then thirdly, it was a great way to mentor, and actually to role model, because some things that may have headed back to somebody's desk as a to do without them being quite sure how they might approach it, and spending a lot of time thinking it through, they had just seen me do it, or I had just coached them on how to do in real time. And so those questions went away, and the next time it was, perhaps, that we didn't need a meeting. That they actually just knew how to do it. So that's how I came to my just do it philosophy.
INTERVIEWER 2: You good?
INTERVIEWER 3: I am good, my friend. Let me just--
SUBJECT: So my just do it philosophy came as I progressed along the manager track. And my calendar was getting fuller and fuller with meetings from folks I was managing, from folks I was surveying, various constituents. And I would prepare for meetings, live my day in meetings, and then have to go home and prepare for the next set of meetings, and or execute on things that had come out of meetings. And time was at a premium, and I realized I was never going to be caught up. I was going to always be on this treadmill if I didn't adjust the way I approached meetings.
So one idea was to just cancel all of them, but that wasn't acceptable. And the other idea was to turn the meeting into the workspace. And so that's what I started to do. I would look at my calendar and see what was coming up the next day, and then just think about what I wanted to accomplish with that person during the meeting. And as opposed to preparing for it, I would, in the meeting, say, these are the things we want to do, how are we going to do them?
And we would literally execute during that time. Make the phone call, send the e-mail, review the manuscript, just make a decision about a higher-- scope out the next Google up, the next thing we were trying to scope out. And ultimately it made it easier for me to be more present and more productive, but it also ended up being a great mentoring approach.
So my just do it attitude was then emulated by other folks who would start just doing it, and it created a better work life balance for all of us. And people who might have struggled going back to their desk and think, OK, we decided I was going to do this, how am I going to do that, had just watched me do it. And so the next time we didn't have to have the meeting, because they could just go and do it.